the skill ai companies secretly value more than deep learning degrees

Stuart MacDonald and Tom Bush sit down with Payal Thakur, Chief Data & AI Officer at JobsOhio, to discuss how practical education and talent development are driving regional AI transformation: How Ohio earned the #1 spot for doing business, the launch of AI Ready Ohio and its free micro-credentials, and why talent readiness, not infrastructure or compute, is the real bottleneck holding organizations back.

Guest: Payal Thakur, Chief Data & AI Officer and Managing Director, Data Analytics and AI, JobsOhio

In this episode:

โ€ข How Ohio built a comprehensive tech and manufacturing ecosystem

โ€ข AI Ready Ohio: free micro-credentials to bridge the gap between AI haves and have-nots

โ€ข Why talent readiness, not infrastructure or compute, is the true bottleneck

โ€ข Moving from AI replacement anxiety to workforce amplification and agentic workflows

Free learning resources at AI Ready Ohio and wrap-up

Connect with Payal:

LinkedIn:   / payal-thakur-mba-usa  

JobsOhio: https://www.jobsohio.com

AI Ready Ohio: https://www.aireadyohio.org

Recorded live at Columbus AI Week (Sept 10โ€“11, 2026), produced by the Enterprise Technology Association with JobsOhio: https://www.joinaiweek.com/columbus

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